June 2025 - members-discuss - mailman.ripe.net

Charging Scheme Task Force Meeting Minutes Published
by Karla Liddle-White 12 Jun '25

12 Jun '25

Dear all, The minutes from the latest RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Task Force meetings are available, including those from meetings 11, 12 and 13. You can find the published minutes at: https://www.ripe.net/s/charging-scheme-task-force-2024/ The task force welcomes comments on the minutes, either on the list here or you can email them directly at: charging-scheme-task-force2024(a)ripe.net Best regards, Karla Liddle-White Senior Communications Officer RIPE NCC

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Re: Reminder that Charging Scheme Task Force comments are open until the end of the month
by D. Walde - Walde IT-Systemhaus 10 Jun '25

10 Jun '25

IPv6 is cheaper to implement, but the transition is a curse for admins. They don't understand it, because they only know 255. Companies should clean up their IPv4 networks. Fees should be fairer for members. We have costs that are rising with the maturity. Yes, perhaps a red line should be applied there. But we're all clear on this point, only because there is a membership charter, and it's not exactly fair. We need to come up with a new fee structure that is fair to all members. -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Walde IT-Systemhaus - CEO Dirk Walde - IT-Specialist

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Members-Discuss Mailing List Placed Under Moderation
by Hans Petter Holen 03 Jun '25

03 Jun '25

Dear members, In light of recent activity on the members-discuss mailing list, the Executive Board resolved to place the members-discuss mailing list in moderation until further notice. This follows numerous complaints that have been made about mails that are off-topic and/or contain material that does not show tolerance or respect for fellow members of the list. The resolution is: “The RIPE NCC Executive Board resolves to temporarily moderate the members-discuss mailing list starting from Monday 2 June 2025, 20:00 CEST and until further notice. The mailing list will be moderated in accordance with the purpose of the mailing list and the principles of the RIPE Code of Conduct by a designated member of the RIPE NCC Executive Board and a RIPE NCC staff member. All emails, accepted or rejected, will be archived on the RIPE NCC website.” The minutes of the Board meeting will be published soon. With this resolution, the principles of the RIPE Code of Conduct will be applied to the members-discuss list. Emails that do not meet the requirements of the code of conduct will not be approved to be posted to the list. Mails that do not meet the intended purpose of providing members with a means to discuss membership issues among themselves will also not be approved to be posted to the list. The moderators of the list will be the Executive Board Secretary and one member of RIPE NCC staff. Mails will be moderated during office hours. A separate archive of all mails, including those rejected by the moderators, is available for all members to view should they wish to do so. Mails on the unmoderated list are deleted after three months. https://mailman.ripe.net/archives/list/[email protected]/ Sincerely, Hans Petter Holen Managing Director and CEO RIPE NCC

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Re: Reminder that Charging Scheme Task Force comments are open until the end of the month
by D. Walde - Walde IT-Systemhaus 02 Jun '25

02 Jun '25

It's about fair distribution. And companies that earn millions should also understand that they have to do their share. And not just laugh and say, "Yeah, unfortunately, you came 30 years too late." You won't even be able to get started in the market. We need to come up with a new fee structure that is fair to all members. Yes, I'm exaggerating about the statement about millions. But it should be possible to even consider approaches to a fair model. Everyone should openly say how we could improve the model without being immediately punished by others. Suggestions are welcome. Just because the model is 30 years old doesn't necessarily make it good or fair. Suggestions are ideas, and they can be good, bad, or whatever. But that's what suggestions are about: the exchange of ideas and opinions. Just because I like chocolate ice cream the most doesn't mean everyone has to share my opinion. or even like ice cream. Greetings, Dirk -- Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen Walde IT-Systemhaus - CEO Dirk Walde - IT-Specialist

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